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Friday, May 23, 2003
 
Carl,

It actually does not matter who my friends are but since you ask, they are OSU students, professionals, business owners and 60+ year old retirees. So, we are not looking at some antiquated notion of traditional Indians that cooked I up but a historic progression of Indians. One of your fellow OSU students (a Phd-to-be when I met her) would not go grocery shopping at the Kroger on King Ave because it is frequented by "kallus". I understand that Indians use terms like that to refer to other peoples (also "desis" for our own kind, that is a total different rant) but seemingly innocent terms like that are given a malicious face when garnished with instances like this. As for refering to the natural color of the negro, that you eloquently put it, I have already pointed out the irony...Indians so black so as to disappear into midnight are not better off, are they? I don't want a falling out over semantics, so I will not delve further.

Blacks might call BET - Black Entertainment Television. Blacks call each other using the "N" word as well and that does not bother them when it is an intra-cultural exchange, but I challenge you to address a black with the "N" word and come out walking on your feet. Just because a community uses a collective term amongst themselves does not mean it is not actually derogatory when others use it. Actually, the collective term for African-Americans (that they want to be used when referring to their community by outsiders) has changed a lot since the 1940's from Negro, to Black, to African-American, so to say that they "like" to be called black is at best shortsighted, true since they have the Hobson's choice. Here is where I agree with Ramki as well. When people (media, Indians etc) refer to Americans, they actually mean white, whereas others are XXX-American where XXX is a racial identification. If we want a unified world, is there any sense in using such divisive terminology?

You may have some thing for african-american women, but that does not mean you treat a black with the same respect you would a white person (though you might and note, nothing personal against you!). Here we are talking about respect for other communities, other cultures and not isolated fetishes....it is still difficult to see a fit place in the use of "Kallu" or similar words...especially in contexts that I have described.

--Kartic

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